Out of boredom, I did a google search for my screen names.
Usually I find myself talked about in 1 or 2 places. eonline discussion board seems to talk about me atleast once a week. Oddly, they dont always realize that I have two different IDs. My y2john ID & my canadagraphs ID have been quoted on the same page by the same person on the past as two different sources lol. But my ears were literally burning with how much critiquing was being done with my recent KOL night blog. Lets see a few of the more classic snippets from http://robsessedpattinson.com in their comments section....this should be good. "Golnaz said... sounds like a bitter paparazzi pissed because he didnt get the shots of Robsten close so saying stuff to minimize what it was." OR, it sound slike someone who saw the photos & accurately pointed out that they arent kissing? I dunno.. Call me crazy, but when did accurately stating facts become a sign of being bitter? "monika said... Yeah you go on believing a paparazzo if you wish.(so now all of a sudden paps are good reliable people eh?) I for one very much doubt any manager would say anything about their clients' private lives to some random stranger, let alone an amateur pap. Come on lol That's retarted, they don't clear the rumours with the press, and you want me to believe her manager would do this with some random pap right? ok This is the biggest HW secret atm and the answer to this is worth A LOT, there's no way a professional manager would give out that valuable answer in a random conversation. Canadagraphs was always anti-Robsten and now he was denied some good phots so he seems hella pissed. Any denial at this point would be laughable, they have looked more than friendly for a few months now, almost inseparable, it's got too far." Hes talked to us before. We're hardly "random" to him for one. Two, it was a party. What do MOST people do at a party? Drink & talk. He did that. Why would I be "anti-Robsten" as you put it. Its in MY best interest for them to get together, because that will sell MUCH better than KStew & Mike or Rob & random chick. Paps want them together more than any of you deluded nutjobs. Its funny, most people I talk to in person or on IMDB who have asked me my opinions on the matter would say I am pro-Robsten. Yet you say I'm the opposite...all because my most recent blog spits in the face of your fucked up delisions of who you think should be with who. For the record. I am not "anti-Robsten." I am "pro-dont care, but will support whichever side pays best" "itissoover said... hilarious, kristens manager talks to a stalker, this guy is full of bs, he also said Nikki Reed was f-ck buddies w/ Robert and that Kristen was with Jackson at his hotel, not to mention he "claims" Ashley was once sleeping with both Jackson and Ian (guy from lost) grain of salt this guy is worst than the rags w/ their stories of everyone being preggers." I see you are one of the many IMDBers who I criticized in the past for your horribly dreadful reading comprehension skills. -I never said R&N fucked. I said N went to Rs hotel, left with R, came back with R, spent the night at Rs hotel. -I never said K fucked Jackson. I stated K stayed at Jacksons hotel (which turned out to be only partially true, as she did go back to hers at around 4 AM, after we had left) - I literally dont even remember any Ashley/Jackson rumours. You obviously got me mixed up with one of the other 103984 comments you inaccurately comprehended. - I never said Ashley & Ian were fucking. Simply that they went back to the same hotel together arm in arm...and went shopping together. For the record, it should be noted. I actually forgot to point out in my blog that Ms. saintly (Ashley) was seen by others being overly chummy to a celebrity at the party. Isnt she supposed to be recently caught making out with some other guy who is famous? But I am sure I was wrong about that too....oh wait, no. I am right. Huh, imagine that. "itissoover said... i don't know if nikki and rob had a little something or not back when, but this guy claims everyone is sleeping w/ everyone in the cast, that's why he was banned from IMDb he would post lies and then pics would surface and he would backtrack, he's a pathological lier is all and is the worst type of stalker to have he harrases them." Again, not once did I ever say anyone was sleeping with anyone. I simply stated that things seen & actions taken by individuals. YOU as a group took my statements & ran with them. Also, I'm not banned on IMDB. Way to fail at making ANY type of point here. Feel free to tell me what "pics would surface" that you are talking about that I back tracked on. " riley said... When I read the report, the only thing I ACTUALLY think the manager said was he wasn't worried about paps being in there and they were going to make a big deal out of nothing. The other parts, are just the writer's inferences from his nonchalant attitude--that it inferred they weren't more than friends. Just picture the manager having some guy bitching to him about not getting inside but others are in there and omg!omg! the paps are gonna catch something. The managers just trying to calm down some wacky person complaining to him. lol When you read it in context, it really sounds like the only thing the manager offered was something like "well, people try to make a story out of nothing all the time."" This moron actually thinks I was bitching at John AT THE SHOW. Reading comprehension fails apparently outside IMDB users as well. I actually left out quite a bit from my blog that would connect the dots of the conversations MORE, because I dont see it as my place to repeat it all. Lets just say, more was said than was posted. Considering there was no less than 5 people there who took in the conversation, I think its fair to say it wasnt him trying to control my crazy lunatic rambling hysterically out of control body when he was saying all that he said. "A said... I know of this weasel. He's also 'not very talented.' Best that can be said is he is a comparatively truthful weasel." Someone who knows me that is calling me a weasel?? Well, thats got to be the pot calling the lettle black then,. since everyone I know would either not think of me that way, OR does this exact same line of work & thus are the same as me in that aspect. Way to insult yourself. " cezannepeint said... The first thing that is obvious from reading that account is that Mr Stalker sure sounds bitter. You came home empty handed? Awww... Re. Kristen's manager's (allegedly) comment, well sounds fishy too. If they're dating (which I'm pretty sure now), what else would he say? Except trying to do some damage control. Of course everyone involved will try to downplay the relationship. Kristen's team (after the s**t she got this summer in the media, of course they'll try to protect her image as much as possible), Robert's (his 'available single hot guy' image is gold! Just read some of the harsh comments here to realisee how bad it'd be for him to be seen dating someone seriously) and Summit (being torn between the media attention it brings and their wish to promote taylor/jacob a big deal. And isn't it convenient to have taylor everywhere Robert/kristen go? If you can't avoid Robert/Kristen paparazzi shots, well just put taylor there too, at least he'll have some media exposure too. Hell, it might even start real life triangle in the media). Anyway I seriously doubt Kristen's agent(or Robert's for that matter) would comment on their client's personal life, especially to a random stalker guy they've just met." Well, you arent the first person to call me bitter. Probably wont be the last. But I'm bitter in general. So probably has nothing to do with this specific event. Since you werent there, you have no idea how the question was presented to him. How his body language responded to it & what exactly he said. You only got my cliffnotes version of it. Again, as explained before. I'm not all that random to them. We've talked on multiple occasions. Just because you seem to live in some deluded world where celebrities, their family, friends & staff must live in a protective bubble from the rest of the world, doesnt mean its real. I guess you also dont believe I have talked to Jackson Rathbone for 15 or so minutes either, despite the youtube video. Real people interact with celebs all the time, because they too are real people. Same goes for their staff. All the insanity can be found here. http://www.robsessedpattinson.com/2009/08/what-went-behind-scenes-at-kings-of.html I suggest putting your brain aside when reading it to avoid causing it undue stress or damage. I have said this before. I'll say it again. You might not like my attitude. I completely agree that I CAN be an ass. But seriously, grow some brain cells. Seriously!! The reading comprehension & outright refusal to believe someones first hand accounts of a situation because it might ruin YOUR deluded misconception of something is insane. Literally, insane. Also, talking behind my back might seem cool to do. But remember, I sometimes might just see it & use it to publicly belittle & embarrass you in my blog. For every hater I seem to have, I seem to have twice as many fans. They too read the same boards as you. Some good DID come out of this. You guys all gave me a good laugh.
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Was a bit busy this weekend, so I didnt get a chance to post my pics from Friday.
Got Peter Facinelli going to the corner store. Got Xavier Samuel walking from 1 tower to the other. Heres a few from my sets of them. As usual, if you post them elsewhere, please link the credits to my site. A couple hours were wasted various ways by various people. Two groups sent people into the show. One got the shots of Rob & Kristen together, the other did not. We were the did nots. We agreed on a plan, we agreed on who to send it. It was side tracked & derailed by seniority, and it cost us. The senior member who is a staffer opted to go in & take his girlfriend with him, instead of sending in someone familiar with the building & a person who was working on getting them the info on where to find them. The guy inside with his girlfriend left before the show ended because he "couldnt find them" instead of spending that time still looking. Shortly after he came out, the guy who was voted on to go in got the text with the exact location...it was useless now, since our only guy on the job LEFT THE SHOW EARLY!!!!! At the time, we didnt know yet that the other company had shots of them together, but we were still quite unimpressed with the poor decisions of the staff member who went in.
There was a long, drawn out wait for the cast to leave. By this point, the vehicles for them had been pulled into the building & you were not going to see them leave the show. When they did leave, it was again a convoy of cars. The cast & followers all going the same way along 1 way streets. We again managed to be the front vehicle in the pursuit. They drove an extended route to get to the little hideaway bar no one had heard of prior called Chambar. Even us, who eat frequently across the street from it didnt know it existed. The route they took there was tricky & assured them (only because we didnt have the knowledge befrehand they were going there...and a little miscommunication with another person on moving out of our way) a clean entry with little to know paps or fans interacting. We finally got out of there after what seemed like an eternity. We hurried around to the other side....but it was too late. They were in. A couple shots & and some short video was had, but nothing great. We were again going to have to wait. In the many hours of waiting, it was confirmed by our paps that the competitors had got shots of R&K close together inside the show & that they were going to be big. Everyone kinda felt like they had been kicked in the balls some. The pros gave up. Literally called it a night and left with a sinking feeling of failure I suspect. The amateurs, including myself decided "we've put in this long, we have to follow this thru now" & we did infact wait out the ridiculously long after party the Twilighters had with Kings Of Leon. A funny side story (I wasnt there for it, but all the people out there confirmed it). Charlie Bewley showed up to the party quite late. When he tried to get in, the roid raging mentally challenged steroid monkey security guard for Kings Of Leon, that thought he was important because he was tending to a door to a club no ones ever heard of, refused to let him in. One of the guys out there realized who it was & asked him if he could take a picture, then did. After that, psychowannabesomebody got aggressively verbal & nearly physically violent towards the photographer. Charlie was fine with the pics, and more interesting, the neanderthal was showing no intention of letting him in still...yet were angry about him being papped. Finally a friend of Charlies noticed him & came and rescued him. I just found it funny the brain damaged roid monkey was not going to let him in, but was angry someone was taking his picture. That guy was without question, the biggest loser I have ever met for security guards for celebrities. We saw Kristens manager outside & walked up & talked to him. He was quite socialable & pleasant & was quite understanding of what we do. The point of the photos inside the show was brought to his attention. He seemed less concerned about it than we were. He basically implied that they will always try to make a story out of nothing. Granted he is her manager and he could be protecting a client, but he seemed sincere when stating that theres nothing going on between them but friendship. But he also realizes how photos like these will be taken & basically had a "oh well" take on it. He was calm & not overly concerned by the potential these photos had. Seems he was right, because when I finally saw them, I saw nothing implying a straight out obvious kiss, like it had been translated to me earlier by the paps. There was mostly dead silence thru the hours of waiting. One of the guys got a few shots of Rob & Kristen sharing a few minutes together out back thru a fence. But for the mostpart, it was dead silent. It was sometime around 4 in the morning (maybe a touch earlier) when they finally came out as 1 group & jumped in a limo their staff had hired to rush them out. A few shots of them leaving were had but autograph chances were nil. We chased to the hotel. The limo showed up, and they all ran in quickly, leaving Kristens manager out there to barter with the driver. The limo driver clearly tried to gouge on the knowledge that he was carrying important people. He claimed it was the "going rate" & he might have been right for all I know, but it did seem grossly excessive. In the end Kristens manager paid the price, and brushed it off as joking, but the limo driver didnt seem to see it much as a joke. I still think he gouged them. With that, the night was over & we were finally able to go get some much needed sleep. Photos & vids from the night will be available later this week perhaps. I had 1 or 2 pics from the Water St Cafe arrivals run a few places. Not too sure if anything else has. More than two hours had passed since the cast entered the warehouse for the screening. I changed cars for the next part, and we got itchy trigger fingers, and decided to drive around the building to check things out. Our timing of this was huge as it turned out. In our little travel we were passed by John, Kristens manager in a car, this was our first sign they were leaving real soon. So my buddy went & grabbed a new spot, 1/2 way down the back lane of this area. I decided to go to the front of the building to watch out incase there was a front door sneak job. We had visual contact with each other. It didnt take long. Less than a minute & he saw the garage door in the back start to go up, and I ran to the back & got in the car. Within seconds of me getting in, they were passing us in the alley & the follow was on.
A four vehicle convoy of Twilight stars & staff rolled thru the area, with us stuck right in the middle, and the rest of the paps in tow. As we made our way into the Downton/Chinatown area, we were forced into a position of having to pass the lead vehicle. We did so & kept a guarded eye on them. At that point we were on the road that would lead to GM Place & were sure they were heading to the Kings Of Leon concert....as it turned out, that was wrong & they went straight, instead of turning, leaving us no longer in the chase group. We now had to play catch up. As they flew thru Chinatown & into the Downtown eastside, we followed on the next street over & the advantage of a driver with lots of experience in the area saved us> We pulled up to a corner in Gastown and they conveniently pulled right infront of us. We were once again following the lead vehicle & were unaware that behind us, the rest of the pack was held up. The front vehicle pulled up infront of a restaraunt, along with 1 more. We were forced to drive around them & hastily pulled to the side of the street & realizing autographs would be impossible, snapped a few shots of them going in. It was Rob, Kristen & Taylor. No other paps were anywhere to be seen. Seconds later they started to show up, and a minute or so later the last of the vehicles & paps showed up. It was too late for any of them to get them going in. We were the only ones. We didnt geta lot of shots, but we got the only shots. I never noticed exactly WHO all showed up. But there was about 6-8 cast members in the entourage. Besides those 3, Elizabeth Reaser, Nikki Reed, Ashley Greene, Kellan Lutz were definitely in the group & I think I saw Xavier Samuel as well, but was not as certain. Inside the Water St Cafe they ate & drank for well over an hour, the restaraunt actually put up curtains in the upstairs area so they could eat without hassle. Funny enough staff of the restaraunt or the crew kept coming to the window & snapping shots of the paps & hounds. Unaffected by it, they simply shot back. Eventually the vehicles returned, and it took less than a minute for them to orchestrate the get away. They pulled Rob & Kristens vehicle into the alleyway, leaving the rest out on the street. Everyone went in & around R & Ks vehicle, while the rest got away practically un-noticed. Kristen bolted in, Rob immediately after. Again, everyone scrambled to their vehicles & again, the follow was on. A cavalcade of celebs & photographers were en route to their next stop. Less than 4 minutes later the answer was known. They showed up to the back of GM Place. They were escorted into the gated security patrolled loading bay, and were positioned as close to the door as they could get them & rushed quickly into the venue. Once again, a waiting game would happen. (Part 3 coming soon) This day was so long I dont think I can squeeze it all into 1 blog without it looking like a novel...which I have been told by some my blogs already look like.
My day started with a late start. I didnt expect the mornings to be busy, so I took my time & didnt get there till about noon. I got there to find out Ashley Greene was out shopping. All the paps were off on that chase, leaving the hotel guarded by merely me & a couple fans. It was quiet, then I went to Subway & found Taylor Lautners dad there. I didnt speak to him, but he was clearly ordering enough that I got the impression TL wasnt coming out anytime soon. His dad left, and when I came out of subway myself, I found him chatting with one of the local hounds. He then told us not to expect much today, that it was going to be quiet there & that they were all in "lockdown". At the time, we didnt know what he meant...but we got the message, which was "dont expect much here today". Shortly after that I saw the tweet from a twilight fan that stated that Edi stated at a twi convention that the cast was apparently watching New Moon in Vancouver as he spoke. So we concluded thats what Taylors dad was referring to & figured we had an hour or more to kill. Myself & 2 others decided to go to a different hotel for a bit & see if we could see some non-Twilight stars. When who should we see??...a Twilight star. Kellan Lutz showed up there & went inside for a couple minutes. When he came back out, he had 2 bags, 1 that was like a carry on luggage bag, the other a shopping bag from somewhere. He posed with a fan for a pic, then hopped in a cab. There was no chance for an autograph, but I did snap a few pics of him leaving (will upload later when time permits...probably Monday). From there we decided maybe they werent watching it right now & headed back to Twilight HQ. Awhile would go by, with nothing of note, then a couple small signs of action happened. Nikki & Elizabeth left, in a production vehicle. Taylors dad went into the parking lot, we assumed to go get the rental car he had, and 1 or two other small things were happening that made us think the movie (we still were under the assumption that it was on right then) was over. When from out of nowhere a vehicle left. It was full. The only thing I knew was the guy in the front seat is a guy we have seen shadowing Rob a lot since he got here, and in the center of the back was Kristen. Two cars followed in pursuit, and my friend & I decided all too late to try & follow. We never caught up to them, but were given the heads up of their final destination. We got out to a warehouse area of West 2nd avenue to a place with an underground secure parking lot that multiple vehicles had gone down into. NOW the cast was about to watch the movie. It was 4 in the afternoon & they were JUST starting their screening. There was 7-10 people waiting outside there. No less than 4 agencies represented. Everyone knew nothing would be had of them leaving, but what they were doing was waiting to see where they would be next....and thats when things started to pick up (for part 2 later today). After multiple epic fails, yesterday I would consider a small win.
It was the first time in a week & 1/2 that I actually interacted with a cast member. Got autographs, photos and video even. To top it off, I managed TWO in only a couple hours. Of course, there was severe fail mixed in & I am going to have to demote 1 certain cast member from my top 10 nicest celebs list now. But that aside...heres a small rundown of yesterday. I got to the hotel around 7:30-8:00 AM. Shortly after a fan tha tI have seen a few times now came over & told me Ashley was out walking her dog. I knew she didnt use the front door, since she never does...but I wasnt about to go and scope out a side door just for her yet. very shortly after that the first few paps showed up. Unlike the New Moon shoot where there were just the locals & the sporadicl out of towner who would be in for a few days & leave, this film there is no less than 6, and I have heard by next week 10+ regular staffer paps up here who have been sent here by the company & told to stay till they get what they want. Shortly after another local arrived & it wasnt too much longer before there was 6-8 paps & hounds lurking about, chit chatting & swapping stories. But no action. After a delicious breakfast consisting of a beef dip at the new favorite hangout of the regulars, the Deli-O restaraunt, I went back to being bored & would occasionally roam for a bit, but nothing much was happening. My time line is off by this point, so excuse me while I check twitter to see what time I tweeted about it...ok, about 2:15-2:30 the first sign of life. Kellan Lutz came back from somewhere in a van, and hastily ran into the hotel, head down, ignoring pleas from fans & regulars alike. This is a new Kellan thats emerged for this shoot. A bit, grumpy & unfriendly Kellan. Perhaps he his bitter over a recent relationship break up, I dunno. But his new attitude stinks & his fans were in agreement. Luckily for the fans, they were rewarded quickly there after. Peter Facinelli made what is likely to be HIS last jaunt outside the hotel on foot. He merely walked over to 7-11 & it took him 15 minutes to get there & back. Fans stopped him for autographs, photos, photos with their kids, and he even spoke some. I asked him about the Jennie fiasco from the day earlier (unfortunately I didnt have my camera running at that moment. DUMB DUMB DUMB) he said confidently that its been sorted out, that she was taken out of context. He seemed fine talking about it, not put out or annoyed. Taking it all in stride. He joked about how if he had known he was going to be seen by so many people he would have taken a shower first. He was very friendly, very accomodating & made the exact opposite impression on the fans that Mr. Lutz made minutes before. After that, there was about a 2 hr lul, till the next chance to get someone. Xavier Samuel, one of the newcomers to the cast walked thru the courtyard from 1 tower to the other. A couple fans spotted him, rushed onto the grounds & interacted with him. As he came thru the driveway, I called him over to sign, and he made the 70-100 yard walk over to do it. Of course, fans swarmed in from every direction & he went from having to sign 2 items for me, to signing and taking pics for probably 3-5 mins. After that, action literally dried right up. No sightings not even any "I think I saw" type sightings. It was just plain dead. After a long day that was including 12 hrs of waiting & 2- 3 hours of being up before it, I chose to go home early that night. No sense burning myself out & because I was barely keeping my eyes open. I got home around 7:15-7:30 and didnt even spend the time getting fully changed, and went to sleep. 9:20 PM my phone rang, it was a call from one of the guys telling me the cast had a party at a restaraunt that I had never heard of. Considering I only got about 2 hrs of sleep, I was suprisingly alert & re-energized when I got up & set out to find the Miku Sushi restaraunt. I had a little trouble since I had never heard of it, but was directed to where it was on the phone & showed up to see 6-8 paps out on the sidewalk, and would later find 4-6 hounds & paps, including a new pap I hadnt seen till then on the back side of the restaraunt. Sporadic sighings for breif moments were seen inside the restaraunt that was set in away from the street and for the mostpart, they had the evening to themselves. There were still some opportunities to get a couple pics here & there, but zero chance for an autograph or a fan encounter. The security of the tower the restaraunt was at called the cops, and a squad showed up. 5 cops in total, and later on, more would show up. On a Friday night in downtown Vancouver, FIVE of Vancouvers police officers were being wasted to tell the paps to stay off the property....which they were when the cops showed up. The two old useless wannabe rent-a-cops who patrolled the place with the grace of Barney Fife had so little confidence in themselves they felt the need to waste 5+ of the cities real cops to babysit grown adults who were actually following the rules already. Pathetic. They came ove,r gave the whole lecture about public property. Then proceeded to go into the restaraunt & basically stand at the door till they were asked to help escort cast mates away. Around 10:45 the first cast left. Kellan Lutz & what was believed to be Ashley Grene, left the restaraunt, into the enclosed private foyer of the building, 200 feet away, behind a locked door & glass....WITH A POLICE ESCORT. I am sure the cops had to be talking later about how pathetic the security at this place were. A police escort was requested for Kellan & Ashley in a private LOCKED building to get from 1 door, to an elevator. WOW. The pair was taken int the underground SECURED & LOCKED gated underground parking garage where a cab was waiting to wisk them away. When it left, I was the only one that went over to where it was leaving from & they both acted like I had 45 cameras pointe at them, doing the whole "protect our identity at all costs" thing that celebs who think too much of themselves & shamed criminals do leaving the courthouse. Shortly after that, the cops left. I envision this coversation happening. Cop 1 "did we seriously escort someone to their vehicle inside a locked building into a locked parking garage?" Cop 2 "I think so, but obviously we must be mistaken. There HAD to be some threat we didnt see" Cop 3 "Nope, you missed nothing. These guys are fucking retards." Cop 4 "so should we bail?" Cop 5 " Bail? Yes, but after we beat these retards with out batons" (other 4 cops ponder the option for a moment) (they get back upstairs) Cop 1 (to the building security) "so we've decided in lieu of beating you with our batons we are just going to leave & ridicule you for the rest of the night in private. Ok?" Witless Security guard "b...b....b...bu..buu.but" Cop 2 "no please. Dont speak another word." (cops leave, fade to black) Shortly after that, the hapless security morons went about, taking the patrons of their establishment into the elevators without incident, since its in a locked building and all...and soon, 5-7 main cast members were being transported out of the restaraunt by 3 cabs & the rush back to the hotel was on. Once back to the hotel, they pulled into the front, with 4-6 cars full of paps & hounds in tow, Robs cab circled the lot twice, before finally taking it downstairs into the underground parking lot, which was opened up just for him & rushed inside. Night over. I then went home & resumed the sleep I had interruped. Even though it was a horribly pointless event, I am glad I didnt miss it, as the absurdity of the slack jawwed yokels they had "securing" the cast inside the locked building was entertainment enough. The all too early, late musician & actress Aaliyah sort of summedit up best.
For the last two days I put in a combined 10+ hours out for Twilight. Not a single thing to show for it...besides frustration. Day 1 I saw NOTHING of the cast. Just 3-4 production vehicles go into the underground parking lot & never be seen again. For 3+ hours they stayed in there & never came out. That is odd. So I gave up early that day, went home & licked my wounds knowing that I cant do that bad again next time. So yesterday I went later in the day. On the plus side, I did see Peter Facinelli (twice), Taylor Lautner, Kellan Lutz (three times), Jackson Rathbone & Ashley Greene.......but I had NOTHING to show for it. No autographs and not even 1 single photo. Seems the cast was unwilling to oblige any interaction requests yesterday, even to the point of Kellan on his return (2nd interaction) speed walking past us & 4 fans, without trying to stop or even speaking a single word. I havent gotten a single autograph from the cast in over a week now (oh, I did basically take like 5 days off...I guess thats part of it). I know eventually the seal will be broken & this little slump will be forgotten. Thing is, I need to get back out & try again or else that slump will just hang over my head. So I am dusting myself off- listening to my prepping up music to get me pumped up to get out there again....and will probably leave within the hour to try again. Round 3 ding ding. EDIT- Round 3 has been cancelled by intense rains & lightning. Just going to sit here & punch things for awhile. |
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